Most likely you will need dedicated iron/copper smelting for green circuit production since so many things take them. is the fix to just have much larger grid sizes to account for the wait platforms? The orientation of and how wide the players monitor is also plays a role in this decision. Youre allowed to do your bus as you see fit. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America), http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=661582295, https://www.reddit.com/r/factorio/comments/4d3per/belt_balancer_compendium/, Red Circuits (Advanced Circuits) x1 (recommend x2). - The width of the bus can become a problem if it is very wide. How many main bus lines do you generally use? Support me on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/JD_PlaysMy Twitter For details of upcoming live streams and anything else 280 Char or less: https://twitter.com/JD_Play5Chat with me live on Discord: https://discord.gg/G6FcZPpTwitch for all your Live Steaming needs: https://www.twitch.tv/jdplaysFeel like being hit in the face, with a book? By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Phone number (716) 649-0940. There are numerous main bus blueprint designs you can choose from and use when in a match. - That means that a splitter connected to two input belts will evenly distribute those items onto the the two output belts. The bottleneck in this balancer is that the two middle belts only get input from one splitter. It is only visible to you. Aarhus, Berlin Mad respect. That means that a splitter can be used to put an equal amount of items on two belts. When you find yourself needing an extra component that is used for very few items, (like stone, stone bricks, or coal), either run a line to the side of the main bus, ending it at the assemblers, or carry the materials in via robots & requester chests. Place inserters as per screenshot -- only inserters need long-arms. Munich, Hamburg - Green & blue circuits share a line going in. - While I might leave room for 4x iron/copper, 2x everything else, the setup normally doesn't live long enough for me to flush it out completely. This item will only be visible in searches to you, your friends, and admins. Balancers that are throughput limited may not be able to provide maximum output if one or more outputs are blocked. Far better to make these locally as needed. First of all, you'll need to think of the best area in where to put it. Universal balancers solve this issue by having the back-looping built in. Frankfurt (Airport), Hamburg Privacy Policy. It includes all the methods you need to take the designs and blueprints from the beginning on constructing your main bus, all the way up to using it to gain the advantage. When you purchase If a universal balancer is throughput limited, the bottleneck may be in the loops or the balancer itself. 1 full input belt gets split into two 50% full belts which get split into 4 belts that are each 25% full. Now red belt can span 6 tiles, which is pretty good for parts of the bus. - I was pleasantly surprised when I saw you were behind this. Advertisement by Hannu Wed Jan 30, 2019 7:28 am, Post Players sometimes choose to only build on one side of the bus until they can estimate that they won't need more belts on the bus. In place they are used sparingly, 1 gear factory provides more than enough for an assembly line, and they can be placed such that the iron comes on half the assembly line, and the gears are placed on the other half. Mechanical Throughput Magic (circuit-free), Frequently Suggested / Link Collections. It's all about trial and error as you start out, you can't be afraid to build something and let it run for a few hours to see how it works - if its not working right delete it and try something else. When one wants to use the items on their bus one could directly take items off the bus as if it is just a belt, though that would mean an extremely long bus and useless lengths of other belts. What bus companies operate the routes starting from Hamburg? The concept of a Main Bus is to put the most used and useful ingredients in a central spot to use for assembling machines. Id like to consider starting a train-grid factory that I see people use and I'm just theorizing that I'll come into . This is fixed by adding more furnace/mine set ups to keep production high. - Pristina, Hamburg There are alternative designs, for example, using splitter priorities to fully prefer the setups near the start of the main bus and only allow materials to go through to a later setup if that earlier setup's needs are satisfied. I ment it more like a general thing like if someone has a favorite setup they use it a cool to learn stuff from others like having 8 copper lines instead of just 4. - http://www.doomeer.com/factorio/#1132bbbbbbbbbbrrgrrrrrgrrrgrgrrrrrrrrrgrrrrrrB10rB12rB24rrrrgrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrA1rrrA1rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Split-off designs aren't strictly necessary but help immensely. Reason being is to have 4 belts of green circuits at full power requires 6 belts of copper and 4 belts if iron. Add more production to fill your belts with intermediate products: Copper & Iron Plate, Steel, Green Circuits, etc. - - Bring the belt to the target lane, then split off, making sure you make the T-junction BEFORE connecting it to ensure that product fills only a single side of the belt. Personally, Ill run 8 lines of copper, 8 lines of iron, 2 lines of steel, and 1 line each for coal and stone. One downside to this can be that all resources are used up before every machine gets fed. In Factorio, having a main bus is an advantage, however it must be well-designed to make sure that it could be used properly and efficiently. Instead, I have a decentralized system where separate modular areas have inputs/outputs delivered/retrieved by train. Putting a lane-balancer after an inherently balanced build that produces the item is also not necessary as then half of the production pauses and the other half fills the moving lane to saturation. Input balanced lane balancers draw evenly from each side of the input belt, while output balanced lane balancers output evenly onto each lane of the output belt. (I normally skip red belts and go straight to blue to save myself the annoyance of replacing the bus 2 times). Hamburg, Lviv Place Concrete or Stone Brick under a couple lanes of your bus & in one of the spaces between lanes (at a minimum) since it gives you a speed boost when running. It comes out 83 iron/sec (3.11 red belts), 104 cu/sec (3.9 red belts), and 56 green circuit/sec (2 red belts). Main reason I run a 4/2/2 bus for my start base is that it allows me to produce continuously produce a SP3 and PM3 module in yellow assemblers and still have enough resources for 10/12/24 science in blue assemblers. it really stacks up over the 5/6 process steps to make a rocket. Sharing makes us all stronger and more inspired to come up with new ideas! Comati PSG Zentral-Omnibus-Bahnhof Bus terminal, Hamburg, Comati PSG Zentral-Omnibus-Bahnhof Bus terminal. A guaranteed method to achieve throughput unlimited balancers is to place two balancers back to back that fulfil the first condition for throughput unlimited balancers (100% throughput under full load). I love using helmod to do all calculations in-game, but of course a spreadsheet is fine as well. - Sometimes this can be fixed by looping the unused output back around the balancer and distributing it among the inputs. Lubeck, Hamburg This formula is based on the number of nodes in a Bene network, which is essentially the same as a throughput unlimited balancer it allows any input to reach any output. Done! Place 2 rows of belts along the gear, inserter, and belt assemblers, and place the snaking belt that leads to the Green Science assemblers as per screenshot below. What is your definition of "main line bus" ? Balancers are used to evenly distribute items over multiple belts or multiple belt lanes. For the belt close to the assembler, split off half a lane of iron plates. You need to sign in or create an account to do that. by Saemj Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:07 am, Post Use a blueprint book instead of designing your own. The idea is that one wants to draw from every belt (and lane even) equally to not have too few items at the current planned production and not have empty and at the same time standing belts of items. Keep the main bus, build your new base close to it. The output from putting them on something like green circuits feels impressive because of the output from so few assemblers, but it's much more effective to multiply blues, then reds, before greens! With splitter priorities that were added in 0.16 it is very simple to split off a belt from a main bus while ensuring good throughput properties. The following designs have the additional property that if the incoming belts are fully saturated then the split-off belt will be full (recall that a single splitter with a single full input belt will by default split off a half-filled belt). 4 should be max, as even if you run 4.. you will still run out as the belts just acts as buffer.. the real key is to have more inputs to the main buss, or and give some factorys direct link that matches theyr requirement from the furnaces. Belt Balancers - how they work and how to make them, Finding balance: A guide to belt balancers, https://wiki.factorio.com/index.php?title=Balancer_mechanics&oldid=183149. READ MORE: Rust: How to fix mouse cursor on screen, Main bus alternatives and more important details. - Assembly lines are best placed so that they run perpendicular to the Main Bus. This is a good measure to combat "spaghetti factories" as it forces someone to plan a structured layout and move everything to use items from the bus. Alternatively, one can make split-off setups without priority splitters. For n n balancers where n is a power of two numbers, nlog2(n)n2 can be used to calculate how many splitters are needed. Steel is usually the one I'm short on. Once you've decided, proceed with collecting all the resources necessary to construct your main bus. Search reviews. Really quite unique in my opinion.The factory utilizes 2-8 single length single headed trains for the raw material transportation. Berlin, Hamburg Try Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/JDPlay5/Grab me a coke with paypal: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick\u0026hosted_button_id=YQYEAQV29Q2HC Feeling generous i have a amazon wish list: http://a.co/jc2vzrv Belt balancers utilize the mechanic that splitters output items in a 1:1 ratio onto both their output belts. there were conveyor belts. by Aeternus Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:54 pm, Post - After that I begin to distribute production to separate factories and do not have single main bus for all products. by astroshak Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:44 am, Post The following is a split-off off a 4-wide bus. How many main lines of base resources( copper. 0 reviews that are not currently recommended. One of the most notable designs include the use of conveyor belts. by Miravlix Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:19 am, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. Heya Gmanicus! by Serenity Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:18 pm, Post This Factorio Base Tour showcases a magnificent 5.2k SPM (Science Per Minute) Mutliple Main Bus Megabase made by Hornet! Here are some Assembly line examples to get you started: Science pack production can efficiently pull off of the main bus to have an expandable system. If there is enough input for the item to saturate a whole belt then putting a lane-balancer in won't help to get more items later on. To have all the information in the palm of your hand download our mobile app for free! - We have located 2 bus terminals and one bus stop in Hamburg. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). As others have said the main bus simply acts as a buffer - remember that it's not your resource pool. People Also Viewed. Sulfuric Acid: Used for both batteries and Processing Units (Blue Circuits). This may happen at a later stage in the game up to which a bus is a very good tool to reduce clutter. Hamburg, Pristina For green circuitsi never go more than two for my starter base. Community-run subreddit for the game Factorio made by Wube Software. - 0eNqVld9ugyAUxl/FnKstwRbwT1sfY7fL0mhLHIlFh9DMGN99qO1mWrrCFfHI9+NwvgP0UFSaNZILBVkP/FCLFrL3HlpeirwaY6prGGRw5lJpE0Eg8tMYmGeEFAYEXBzZN2RkQB7Kt4WSWpVcsdNC1lRcKSYXsshBpmQu2qaWKixYpRbiePhAwITiirN509NHtxf6VJhlMvKIgaCpWyOrxbiqQYUUQWeGeBgTusFQdwz5BxN5ZxPZMLE3htowiTMGXykIjlyyw/wrtjBT70LdQKkFuvmFamO7LGVtxidY01bXXqq1avTYNXfgrW8hsa2Ou/v2tqS1SubEiA1BsKcX+HnVCPH1lzhAqb8X+M8KLh44QSKHIl6sxavEIVHvQ2I3JvEx13rMSOqCwBeEPYuN72as9wbZ+p5OgzEX7HQZZ4tnBkGVG52J0XDaUyB5+amCl6IL1nqtBf/SbE9fg9xMPTPZTuA0jmmabiihu2H4AQXcOK0=, 0eNqVlNFugzAMRX8F+WmTwkpSSlc+Y6/TVEEbdZZoYMGphir+fYZOHVrTijwhQu7J9Y3xGcrK6caiIcjPgLvatJC/n6HFgymqYY26RkMOJ7TkeEWAKY7DwmVHrKAXgGavvyGXvQhQvk2UyqtE0seJrKmQSNuJbDlDRrYwbVNbiktd0USc9h8CtCEk1Jeix5dua9yx5GNyeY8hoKlbltVmOJVRMW/t+JH2g6F/GDUbkzygLIPNLH2YNBijfJjVbMzVjIA9Wr27fFIeZnZ707cJvaweuFpfCY6v2B5szc/HWQ++ftumdtS4oUFuuK+hoSU+d5sZ9cXXAqUPIZPA3L1GpAy9Pb8ZFRx38pc2mjthy+BO97tLQ+L2tpNcBXSk30QWWov3p5XrwBHCFJ5t4xzMJxNeQFWwjNdUPFYUWTx8UvRUdtHCLZzBL6e36jkqeetJ23bkZmmqsmytpNr0/Q+uzw2D. READ MORE: Rust: How to fix screen tearing. Some players eventually phase out the main bus entirely in favor of robots. for example, there will be dozens or trains that will want to get at the green circuits, so I will need train wait platforms but I'll need so many of them (have at least one wait platform for each train that wants green circuits just in case of bottlenecks) that there will be a whole grid just made up of wait platforms that not much room for actually making the circuits. This page was last edited on 31 August 2020, at 10:02. Oldenburg, Hamburg Whether one uses a bus is often decided before starting a map or when first building an array of furnaces. Maintaining a main bus would require you a lot of effort and time to do it, including re-balancing your belts. Flensburg, Hamburg The way in which materials are split off from the main bus determines which production setups in the factory are prioritized if the bus delivers less input than all the setups combined need. Belt balancers utilize the mechanic that splitters output items in a 1:1 ratio onto both their output belts. by Trebor Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:14 am, Post If you believe your item has been removed by mistake, please contact, This item is incompatible with Factorio. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/ =754378586. There are also over 200 trains on the map.Overall a very impressive and extremely satisfying base, both visually and with its huge and efficient production capabilities. What are the most popular bus routes from Hamburg? Paris, Hamburg By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. you can also reduce needs late game with productivity modules. With that, here's a main bus guide for Factorio, including the blueprint, designs, as well as alternatives and other important details. The easiest way to do a two-material split off is to start with the position of the belt near the assembler, and work backwards. 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, 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. Having smaller groups of only one or two is also not a bad thing. That way at every step along the bus a few items are split off and used up and when the production comes to a stop the items go on to be used by the next production. Make sure to watch through for all the little details!Download the save and see more info for the base in the reddit post here: https://www.reddit.com/r/factorio/comments/mef5ui/my_first_megabase_5200k_spm_beltbus/Stay up to date with new releases by Subscribing.Support The Channel On Patreon: http://www.patreon.com/Xterminator5Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/xterminator5Discord Group: https://discord.gg/0rIlqgn3wPmrmtWmMy Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/Xterminator5My Website (Blueprints, Mod Lists, \u0026 More! For the belt furthest from the assembler, split off green circuits. This means I still have throughput on my iron/copper busses for other things. by vanatteveldt Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:14 pm, Post A good example of this are copper cables as they consume more space on a belt than in the form of copper plates. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Incredibly helpful, thanks for the effort. 0eNqlld1qhDAQhV+lzHUsxv/6DPsGpRTdDUvAjRLjUhHfvaPWVTBbMu1VcPR8OTOTMQOUVScaLZWBfAB5rlUL+fsArbyqoppipm8E5HCX2nQYYaCK2xRYvvAiGBlIdRFfkPOREZSnnTKwKqURt01mdKHaptbGK0VlduLwP+Jo/GAglJFGiiX1+aH/VN2tFBqTejA6VOirrnFdKAyaukVhraZ9EeYFDHpc0NFqo+5M000bHsABAewTuCHFMCeAo2fVPGAfVAsl/kM9+WZPqifuEmd3KxUPHVykFuflXWKBpu5Q7gzNtkloKmkMxo44/zVec7cg3qitCGwU7lMxVjOcuyTEfxLyrYiA2j27k9DBif+rkYg8lS6Hk8f0oXTiJsQO2suWUhpoP0oZofJIwJ/u/IPOdxcQg6pA7xiLvBnyMl0ad6HbZZSyNOBZmPhhNI7frCw6ag==, 0eNqdld9qgzAUxl9lnOs4TBq19Rl6tdsxhrahBGyUGMuK+O476jqFxpGzq+DR75fv/DHpoaw61VhtHOQ96FNtWsjfe2j1xRTVGHP3RkEON21dhxEGpriOgfmLSMLAQJuz+oKcD8yj1E5dF5mzhWmb2rqoVJVbiYVXvLXtcaXckZRvK6UcPhgo47TTas57erh/mu5aKosZ/ao7VNiLrXGdnTNo6haFtRk3RVgkGNxxQTsPD3Xnmm5M8gksCOCYwN1RDHMCWBLAFG7yjwrzBazNBjfdmrhNKg4gnLVVp/ld6oFmwdDYyxQe5j7cKA82elimvqm0cxh7xsWvyaOeHgSP6R0PaQznwQnz4CJyEZIw/0k49ua7o06Mv2wywEn8p5GEfDYE1T2lHw1B3IzYT3/Z9pQGCi/iQKg8EvDon66mfHUHMqgK9I4xGU2Ql2qE3JRt539NSpGmmeDiMAzfI+ZmDA==, 0eNqlldFugzAMRX9l8nOYcEih5TP2Ok0TbaMqEgQUQjVU8e8LdAy0hirWniIM9+TajsMNjmUnG6O0hfwG6lTrFvL3G7TqootyjNm+kZDDVRnbuQgDXVRj4P5FJGBgoPRZfkGOAyMo31ZK7lUqK6tFZk2h26Y2NjrK0q7EyX/EYvhgILVVVsl76tND/6m76iiNS2qLwaCpWyer9birQ0WcQe+WZBgN/cHwX0znNjYXU7t1AxTPHDYnU3e26UbbD9yEwI2QABYEMIW7I9eT++qZkjHow2TBmHg2w+CsjDzdX3EPc7+c9KZU1rrYo6n4dffE1iHYFgbbwpjeUVw6qvRGQxFD8sWffGNfusip3fRWDZMAJ/FTI4I8pkEl2tGnNIibEs+Jv2wZpYHeacQ9ofKO4O7c6X7OV/8fBmXhvLuYiCbIy8i4StNOiFQInqYZR34Yhm/sYzpB. Hamburg, Giessen Make sure to re-balance belts after you split from them. So, if only one side of that splitter gets input, as can be seen in the gif, it can only output one belt even though the side of the splitter is fed by a splitters which gets two full belts of input.

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