How do you explain her not telling the truth to the authorities about the gun and its flaw of only able to shoot once and then jamming up. Andrew Katrinak reported missing his wife, Joanne and 3.5-month-old son, Alex, in December 1994. However, my curiosity is piqued as to why Andrews mother didnt report the missing daughter in law, Joanne and her own grandson Alex! When Joann Katrinak and the baby didn't show up for a planned afternoon of Christmas shopping on Dec. 15, Katrinak called the police. Martin Domin Editor, Mirror Fighting. Its an opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. As to her duration on death row, no: inference cannot be made as to her guilt as theres a woman with about the same time (Holberg) and another with almost as much. Dont know from where youve got your information about this case my guess is youve been watching a lot of those documentaries which revel in showing the case in a disgracefully biased manner. Resides in Bethlehem, PA. They were people that knew her, not Andrew. After relocating to Pennsylvania, Patricia met the 6-foot-2-inch Andrew in a restaurant. Thank you and well said. Patricia L. Rorrer was taken into custody from the Linwood home she shared with her boyfriend and 1-year-old daughter on June 24, 1997. In a million years, she wouldnt do anything to harm that.. The only thing that has changed since this case is the ability of people to access and proclaim crackpot ideas, conspiracies, and all the rest. After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. As I stated previously, if she cannot speak for herself, Im happy to step up on her behalf. (Nope. As for him, yes, it looks like the first suspect, but if he had alibis, quite hard to accuse of actually doing it, and I understand it was a pretty solid one. I dont understand Partricias defenders pointing to Andrew with the dyed blond hair found at the car and murder scene. Prince Andrew is refusing to leave his home at Royal Lodge and instead is demanding a mansion "fit for a King", according to royal sources. Perhaps she used more than one gun using another/others for the target shooting than the one she killed with (and others shot with her?) Not normal folks obsessed ones do. And this was never disclosed to Rorrers Defence. The couple moved into Andrew's sturdy brick house at 740 Front Street in Catasauqua, Pennsylvania. If there was more talk about finding this .22 mm gun then that would solve all of this speculation. Your assertion that most people cant distinguish reality from crackpot nonsense is in fact nonsense the reality is that most people are easily fooled by these biased documentaries who then feel its okay to spout their tripe as if its the gospel. From what Ive seen its pretty obvious Patricia did do that to this poor woman and the baby. Sign up for our newsletter to keep reading. An infant was lying face down on her stomach. Incriminating words. The fat cow is guilty as hell and I hope she continues to have the shit kicked out of her in prison every day of her useless life. Andrew Katrinak told police he refused to speak to her, and Joann Katrinak warned Rorrer not to call back. Traupman claimed that when he reported the dispute, trooper Robert V. Egan III got mad and practically kicked him out of his office. Then you claim this is an opinion. Published: 20:58 EST, 3 March 2023 | Updated: 21:02 EST, 3 March 2023. By. Rorrer's attorney, Bill Fritz of Lexington, refused to comment on the case. Farm Heroes Saga, the #4 Game on iTunes. After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. Theyre more than happy to exaggerate and speculate the details of the crime, which serves to attract more viewers who (like you) seem to be happy to believe it all. And this doesnt apply to your opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. They dont need to make money??? She never had anyone testify against her but an ex-boyfriend! Neighbors remember seeing her place the child on horses for short rides. She had a history of violence over men, and she had access to the dump site from frequent visits. . I hope she rots in hell. she didnt need to . Username. I deduced my opinion to be fact because of what Ive read and seen and is supported by evidence which was never disclosed at her trial. Perhaps that would lessen your fright. You are correct the bodies were not there all that time, and it seems odd that they baby taken at 3 month, but when found he was 6 months according to Wrong Man. Living on the edge (literally! The person who killed Joann is currently serving a life sentence because 10 months after Joann and Alex died, he killed another woman (who bore a striking resemblance to Joann) and her baby. No way for 4 months, that deceased baby would still be resting across the mothers chest. They lived together in Salisbury Township, Pa., for about two years, but they . SHAME ON THEM. She has no means to reply or rebut this outrageous slurs and these forums are the only way I know where people may become aware of the wrongful conviction of innocent person and equally, those who happily believe all the adverse and damaging comments. Tate has a dark spot on his lung, most likely a tumour, a spokesperson told Mail Online. Arkansas (1) Colorado (4) Connecticut (1) Pennsylvania (2) Virginia (2) Refine Your Search Results. Early in the investigation, the hairs found in the car were sent (in glass slides) to several laboratories including the FBIs. Which Patricia did not, so who is the real killer? I believe the answer to your question is in my comment above. Unfortunately for Joanne this psycho took it badly. Rorrer liked trading and training horses, Myers said, because she didn't have to put her 1-year-old daughter in day care. Yet, you have a story like Darlie Rutier who supposedly stabbed herself seriously enough that was centimeters from her carotid artery, yet this woman is in prison still? Katrinak, Andrew J.Andrew Joseph Katrinak, 88, of Bethlehem, died on Wednesday, January 21, 2015 at Blough Healthcare Center in Bethlehem. There is no justice for your loved ones when the wrong person is paying for the crime. She killed a mother and child and now has all of you eating out of the palm of her hand about how mistreated she has been. Counsel for Patricia Rorrer, 52, argued in Lehigh County Court that investigators mishandled DNA evidence, WFMZ-TV 69 reports. Want to bookmark your favourite articles and stories to read or reference later? And then in their zealous efforts to show their ire, feel the need to suggest anyone who supports her is deluded. So where they alive somewhere, and if so how could of Patricia, who was questioned, with not one mark on her kill them? Find Andrew Katrinak's phone number, address, and email on Spokeo, the leading people search directory for contact information and public records. So, if you feel you have to be critical of me, you should also bear in mind those hate-mongers and perhaps have a word with them too. Yeah, no. You can PM me please, this way you can update your article with the correct information. Kurt Bresswein may be reached at kbresswein@lehighvalleylive.com. The influencers doctors have thus requested for Mr Tates release from prison so he can receive medical treatment in Dubai. I guess the investigators in Pennsylvania managed a quick resolve to a huge case that had a nations eyes scrutinizing their every move! If you so dearly feel the need to occupy the high ground in debate or an argument, have the decency to quote accurately. To prove it 110% rather than just 99% I dont know why they wouldnt retest the hair fibers etc. I most definitely will not personally afford Patricia a platform, Michael said in an email to ForensicFilesNow.com She had her chance to answer my questions and tell her story in court over 20 years ago. At 17, Patricia dropped out of high school and married landscaper Gary Gabard. The state police dropped him as a suspect. Even if there were some minor flaws or discrepancies in the investigation, thats normal. Andy passed not one but two polygraph tests and had a solid alibi. First it was winter, cold temperatures preserve bodies for significantly longer periods. Search by Name Search . Stevie J Further to my previous comment, I should add the following. ``The lady had a lot of contacts around the country from her horse trading business, and she very well could have disappeared.'. I live in Pennsylvania, not far from where this happened. of course they all do it to make money only, some of them do it shamelessly, without the slightest attempt to be fair and honest. Have you read the book? Meticulous primping. Prince Andrew was seen smiling while riding a horse this morning despite tensions with King Charles who reportedly asked him to leave Royal Lodge. I noticed that her defense lawyer and others advocating for her is not mentioning more about the gun. Rorrers defenders remind me of a case in my home town There was a killer who confessed, was caught on video committing the murder and was seen committing the crime by an eye witness. This was a horrible and brutal double murder and whoever did it needs to be locked up forever. Discover address history, phone, age and more. Or the ME and the entomologist that explained how impossible it would be for that baby and mother to be out there for four months, deceased at that, and still be as intact as they were, and the fact that the baby was double the size of a three month old child. More likely it reflects a relative reluctance to execute females as well as the pendency of what will be the last episode of DNA investigation. Rorrers filed multiple appeals over issues you raise, the latest recently and rejected. Yes, that doesnt mean shes unquestionably guilty, but it does mean her case has been relatively exhaustively examined (and its not over) and it means that your assertion that you are right and the guilty camp are wrong (and that this should be obvious) is absurdly overplayed. Bookmark. By continuing to use our site, you consent to the placement of cookies on your browser and agree to the terms of our Privacy Policy. A newspaper account described Patricia as a soft-spoken, demure woman who had a sweet Southern accent and wore feminine clothes in court. Not gender neutral. (Media sources vary as to whether she actually worked at the stable or just rented a stall there for her own horse.). I dont see any defining comment or wording that justifies that claim. Detective Barry Grube found it odd that Andrew fixed the severed phone line before police examined it in essence tampering with evidence. What did the ME report as to the age of the baby? (Lehighvalleylive.com file photo). Those who knew Joann pointed out that she didnt like to drive in reverse and would have never parked that way. DNA tests showed that strands of hair at the crime scene and in Joann Katrinak's car matched Rorrer's hair. But the bodies weren't found until April, when a farmer glimpsed a blue baby blanket in a forest 15 miles from Catasauqua. Rorrer was convicted at trial in March 1998 of kidnapping Joann Katrinak, 26, and her 3-month-old son, Alex, on Dec. 15, 1994, from their Catasauqua home, shooting Katrinak in the face, and leaving her and the child in the woods in Heidelberg Township. The attorney, Craig Neely, also argues he has the testimony of a police officer who worked on the case to back up his claim, according to the report. ``She was real good with kids, good to mine at least,' Jost said. Pennsylvania troopers will take her to Bethlehem, Pa., today. This response of yours neatly sums up your dogmatic view of her guilt despite so much evidence to the contrary. {{start_at_rate}} {{format_dollars}} {{start_price}} {{format_cents}} {{term}}, {{promotional_format_dollars}}{{promotional_price}}{{promotional_format_cents}} {{term}}, Nebraska cheerleader competes by herself at state competition, but crowd doesn't let her feel alone, Police identify victim who died Wednesday in Greensboro's 11th homicide of 2023, William Sturkey: Chapel Hill trustees 'hellbent' on winning campus culture wars, Rob Schofield: North Carolinas chronic public employee shortage wasnt an accident, KFC is bringing back a fan favorite after a nearly 10-year hiatus, Richard Groves: What the 'He Gets Us' media campaign says about the decline of Christianity, Mark Elliott and Jeremy Rinker: Budget reductions at UNCG punish it for serving disadvantaged students, Two Things: Victim's family not surprised by no show; hospital wars in Greensboro and money well spent, Samet on jail project: Guilford officials 'acted improperly' during bid process, Former Page High School teacher arrested on child sex charges, records show, Proposed rules for Airbnb, other short-term rentals advance in Greensboro, 'A bizarre case': Greensboro TikTok star found not guilty in fatal 2019 crash, Atrium Health Wake Forest Baptist proposes community hospital in Greensboro, Greensboro police officer involved in confrontation on Golden Gate Drive resigns, Jaydon Young's lessons of sacrifice mix with two-hour transfer, Virginia Tech and 2023 tournament. None. When she stood trial that same year, she maintained her innocence and alleged that she and Andrew Katrinak had continued to stay in touch as good friends, so she wouldn't do anything to hurt him. At the states request, the instructor wore a wire during a phone conversation with Patricia. Andrew mentioned to police that his former live-in girlfriend Patricia Rorrer once managed a horse stable two miles from the bodies location and would have been familiar with the riding trails close to the murder scene. In fact it clearly shows how short you are on all the details surrounding this case. The charges: two counts of kidnapping and two counts of murder. Why would it be an irony for a person to express his opinion? Andrew Tate and his brother detained by Romanian Police. I finally had to stop reading this stupid article. Very soon after, the original hairs (in glass slides) were sent to the FBI again. King Charles is planning to cut the Duke's annual . Hoist by my own petard! Police couldnt determine whether the baby died of exposure or suffocation. Well ask you to confirm this for your first post to Facebook. Nailed? Omg so well put! Police say Rorrer put a .22-caliber bullet in the mother's head, strangled the baby and placed him in the dead mother's arms. Mary was born in August 1891, in Connecticut. And I have absolutely no sympathy. And the point the hair in her hand wasnt tested was because they didnt need it since they had the killer shame on everyone who went along with that. Stable situation. False. WoW! ), And in another bombshell, Joanns good friend Karen Devine said Joann planned to leave Andrew after the holidays. Both were deceased. The media love the femme fatale., FBI lab blunder. I accept there are a couple of remarks which can be seen that way but they are in direct response to those whove been offensive in the first place. This is the most ridiculous take ever! Of course, if he had info that only the perp would know Admission has long since been disregarded without corroborative evidence. The prosecution alleged that after the murder, Patricia drove Joanns car to McCartys parking lot and backed it into a parking space. It showed her usually all-brown hair haphazardly highlighted blond. 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Follow him on Twitter @KurtBresswein. The entrance to the Lehigh County Courthouse at 455 Hamilton St. in Allentown is seen in November 2011. He said she did own a firearm, with its serial numbers filed off. If you look at the crime scene picture, only parts of the mother seem preserved. On closer inspection, he saw it was the body of a woman. Justice is about uncovering the truth. His doctors have requested that he returns to Dubai for further testing. The state police targeted Rorrer as a suspect that summer, and troopers traveled to North Carolina eight or nine times, Kohuth said. Andrew has not demanded this. Deputies watched the house as often as they could - from the woods, the road and even from the air. And your attempt to draw a distinction between a fact and an opinion! The longer it took to find the bodies the easier it would be for her alibis to be believed as it wouldve been harder for people to remember if she was at a dance class etc that she regularly attended on that specific date. (Disclaimer: Im not a big fan of eyewitnesses who come forward years after the fact, but its possible). Catherine are you sure your names not Karen? They blocked each exit to make sure police couldn't extradite Rorrer before they saw her. As for the murder weapon, police didnt find a .22 caliber pistol on Patricias property, but an ex-boyfriend claimed that she owned one and it would always jam after one shot. Its a video on Utube Judges For Justice featuring her case. I dont think she was ever scared until we put the cuffs on her.. Irelands husband buried it in the yard because he didnt feel comfortable with a firearm inside, she said. Rorrer killed two peoplea young mother and her small child and thru the justice system got what the bitch deserved! PS Speculative lies is meaningless. Its perfectly understandable that one should feel sorry for the victims of this heinous crime. Patricias phone bill showed no record of a call to Catasauqua that day, but police noticed she didnt make any calls at all from her house in North Carolina that day either suggesting she could have been out of state and used a pay phone to dial up the Katrinaks. Plus a FB group that I was in included some people who grew up with her and they confirmed that she was indeed a horrible mean person who was easily enraged and always looking for a fight. And the obvious answer is that the makers too think the evidence is against her. Check out ALL the facts if you feel the need to comment. The state made a case fueled by circumstantial evidence and public outrage over the deaths of a modern-day madonna and child. RR, Watch the Forensic Files episode on YouTube. Instead of presenting hard facts, all I see are words and phrases that are purely speculative.. such as perhaps. I have worked for Interpol for years as a gun analyst, usually women who commit such crimes against their exes wife or mistress, lover etc are pushed from behind by a man and promises and lies. She wanted all men to give her attention but she couldnt have everyones attention, especially ANDREWS!!! She will be taken to Pennsylvania today to face trial. That is not just a circumstantial case, that is both circumstantial and forensic, and it is pretty air tight. Im a hunter and in the spring I have found many dead deer that died from starvation or other reasons and the bodies are untouched. The fact that Joanne was found with a hair clutched in her hand that was inconsistent with both her and Patricia (that they conveniently didnt bother to test). Most of your comment absolutely astonishes me. Some two years into the investigation of Rorrer, a court order was obtained to remove hair specimens from her. We should be skeptical of those, like you, who suggest its obvious a jury got it wrong that you know better than 12 people presented with the evidence. which makes a complete nonsense of their gun theory. The series was produced by Joe Berlinger, who made the Paradise Lost documentaries, which garnered actor Johnny Depps attention and ultimately helped free the West Memphis Three. Its definitely getting rougher every day, Andrew told the Morning Call. They retested hair from the car in 2008 with updated new technology. I think shes guilty for sure. The Free Patricia Rorrer page responds to comments from supporters (How is this even possible that this woman is still in jail?!? I expect she will admit it one day. If you want to help her let her find peace by admitting her wrong and asking God for forgiveness. I really never thought of it again.. In 1993, Katrinak married Joann Marie Katrinak and the couple had a son, Alex, the next year. Forensic Files didnt mention it, but the hairs were actually brown at the top and the rest dyed blond, according to the show Autopsy Six: A Fatal Attraction. ALISON BOSHOFF: As Broadchurch star Andrew Buchan and Leila Farzad become a real-life item while sexual electricity crackles between them in new BBC drama, did an earlier role of his give a . When police traveled to North Carolina to interview Patricia about the murders of Joann and Alex, she said that on the day of the homicides, she had visited a feed store, a tanning salon, and a country music club.

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